Comments on: Fail-Safe Joiners, Priorities and the Cyclotron example http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/01/13/fail-safe-joiners-priorities-and-the-cyclotron-example/ The #openttdcoop and OpenTTD Blog Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:32:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Patrick http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/01/13/fail-safe-joiners-priorities-and-the-cyclotron-example/comment-page-1/#comment-9529 Patrick Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:18:20 +0000 http://blog.openttdcoop.org/?p=598#comment-9529 It's funny actually, I spent a long time on that design, trying to get 2 trains in them at once and so on, and then gave up and used linear injectors instead. Then I realised that other bugs (features) with train speed and 45-degree track turns made my goal of ludicrous train density impossible anyway, and abandoned the whole thing. It’s funny actually, I spent a long time on that design, trying to get 2 trains in them at once and so on, and then gave up and used linear injectors instead.

Then I realised that other bugs (features) with train speed and 45-degree track turns made my goal of ludicrous train density impossible anyway, and abandoned the whole thing.

]]> By: Alexander Pas http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/01/13/fail-safe-joiners-priorities-and-the-cyclotron-example/comment-page-1/#comment-9528 Alexander Pas Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:43:05 +0000 http://blog.openttdcoop.org/?p=598#comment-9528 I believe, if we can combine this, together with http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/File:Same_side_prio.png we can have some great stuff. I believe, if we can combine this, together with http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/File:Same_side_prio.png we can have some great stuff.

]]> By: Osai http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/01/13/fail-safe-joiners-priorities-and-the-cyclotron-example/comment-page-1/#comment-9527 Osai Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:33:09 +0000 http://blog.openttdcoop.org/?p=598#comment-9527 @Roysvork: Ouch... thank you for the hint. It was very late in the night yesterday... "save" doesn't make sense :D I replace all, thx! @Roysvork: Ouch… thank you for the hint. It was very late in the night yesterday… “save” doesn’t make sense :D I replace all, thx!

]]> By: Roysvork http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/01/13/fail-safe-joiners-priorities-and-the-cyclotron-example/comment-page-1/#comment-9525 Roysvork Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:10:10 +0000 http://blog.openttdcoop.org/?p=598#comment-9525 I don't mean to rain on your parade... but it should really be Fail-safe join : ) I don’t mean to rain on your parade… but it should really be Fail-safe join : )

]]> By: V453000 http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/01/13/fail-safe-joiners-priorities-and-the-cyclotron-example/comment-page-1/#comment-9523 V453000 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:01:27 +0000 http://blog.openttdcoop.org/?p=598#comment-9523 Very nice :) gotta try that right now Very nice :) gotta try that right now

]]> By: Mark http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/01/13/fail-safe-joiners-priorities-and-the-cyclotron-example/comment-page-1/#comment-9522 Mark Wed, 13 Jan 2010 12:02:34 +0000 http://blog.openttdcoop.org/?p=598#comment-9522 Very nice concept. The greatest advantage I can see is in SML shifters. Because trains don't stop at all anymore on the ML, this will improve ML capacity. The benefit is especially big for fast, slowly accelerating trains, such as the lev4. If my understanding is correct a 4 lane SML shifter using fail-save shifts for TL5 would look like this: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/images/8/84/Fail-safe_4-lane_SML_shift.png Also note the footprint size reduction. Sidelines joining SML network can also be made quite a bit more efficient. In the join below a train will first try to join the ML at full speed, if this fails it will move on to the longer prio and sit there until it has enough space to get to full speed on the ML. http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/images/6/63/Fail-safe-SML-join-with-2nd-chance.png Very nice concept. The greatest advantage I can see is in SML shifters. Because trains don’t stop at all anymore on the ML, this will improve ML capacity. The benefit is especially big for fast, slowly accelerating trains, such as the lev4. If my understanding is correct a 4 lane SML shifter using fail-save shifts for TL5 would look like this:

http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/images/8/84/Fail-safe_4-lane_SML_shift.png

Also note the footprint size reduction.

Sidelines joining SML network can also be made quite a bit more efficient. In the join below a train will first try to join the ML at full speed, if this fails it will move on to the longer prio and sit there until it has enough space to get to full speed on the ML.

http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/images/6/63/Fail-safe-SML-join-with-2nd-chance.png

]]> By: Ammler http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/01/13/fail-safe-joiners-priorities-and-the-cyclotron-example/comment-page-1/#comment-9521 Ammler Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:57:11 +0000 http://blog.openttdcoop.org/?p=598#comment-9521 nice article and nice idea, hope to see that in busy network soon :-) nice article and nice idea, hope to see that in busy network soon :-)

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